Russel, why so big deal? The NiMH are so cheap now that it doesn't care if life time is 1 or 0.5 it was specified. 4x2100mAh NiMh can be as low as euro 4 ($6.6), austrian price (not australian) Vasile On 9/21/08, Apptech wrote: > Bob said: > > > We went thru a whole deal on this NiMH battery charge system. > > > The most important factor is battery temperature. > > As the NiMH cell tops off, battery temp rises > > to 45C or so. For the most part, charge level can > > be determined simply by the temperature. > > > As a general rule, charging without monitoring temperature > > is a good way to have a fire. > > > As the cell is approaching full charge, the cell voltage rises to > > 1.50V per cell. Cut it off there, if you can. The knee is softer on > > NiMH and more difficult to read. > > > ... and DON'T trickle-charge NiMH cells, they don't like it. > > Charge at a rate of C/5 for good cell life. > > > Good documentation is hard to find. But Tynergy Batteries > > Maybe Tenergy ??? > > > has V-I charts that are accurate. > > All good stuff where you have essentially unlimited charging energy > available and "normal" temperatures apply. > > Just to add perspective: In my main applications energy source is limited > energy solar and ambient temperature may be as high or even above Bob's end > point temperature. (The latter is not good for battery life!). > > NimH long term low rate charge end point voltages are lower than under > typical conditions. Maximum end point voltage / cell would typically be > never above 1.45V/cell and may even be less so a 1.5V end point would never > be reached.. > > My available charge rates vary with application but are in the C/4 - C/8 > range at full rate and can be anything below that when the enerrgy source > decides to hide behind clouds or increasing amounts of the atmosphere. > > > Russell. > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist