On Sep 1, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Jason Hsu wrote: > I have been able to get PICC-LITE to work, but the most > sophisticated microcontroller it's compatible with seems to be the > PIC16F84. Nonsense. If you're going to get useful advice, you need to stop making statements that are sweeping and incorrect generalizations not much better than "nothing works and everything sucks. Help me!" Even my somewhat old PICC-LITE download supports chips like the 16F627, 16F877, 16F684, and others that are "more sophisticated" than the F84. True, it doesn't seem to include support for the F72 chip you are interested in. However, it looks like sometime around 15-Jul-08, Hi-tech re-thought that way that they implemented the "freeware" versions of their compiler. In the older PICC-Lite, they supported a limited number of chips, with limitations on memory. In their newer PICC-freeware, they claim to support ALL the chips with no memory limitations, but without optimization (meaning that the code produced is 2x bigger than with optimization. Pretty painful, IMO, but still usable?) It's not the way that I'd show off my compiler technology to potential customers, but it's "not bad, for something that's free." (and it looks like you can turn on a 45-day "eval period" during which it will compile WITH optimization, if you end up tight on code space.) So if you otherwise liked the hi-tech development environment, except for not supporting your chip, it might be worthwhile downloading a more recent version... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist