On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 06:33:18PM -0700, 'Grif' wrote: > > The one I really like, v8 engine. 4 cylinder air compressor bank, and a 4 > cylinder "steam" engine in the other 4 cylinders. Then you use the > generator on the crankshaft to run the house. Never did figure out how to > convince the guy it would not work. Just not enough common ground. Lack of common ground is part of the problem. The real problem is that these folks think the laws of thermodynamics are just a funny local custom of no real importance. Do a search on "rotoverter" and be prepared to be underwhelmed and amazed at the same time! Matthew -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist