> > And last night a ceiling joist broke in > > I can't even envision the events leading to that scenario, > Clay roof tiles? tree? wind load and no toenails or hurricane straps? > missing collar ties? Maybe Rodent Of Unusual Size popped in -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist