> > There are several problems with this: > > 1) How is water a fuel here? It seems to me that you never need to add > more water. > 2) The step of splitting water into H2 and O2 takes MORE energy than > you get when you recombine them to get water back. This manifests > itself as heating of the water during electrolysis and is unavoidable. > 3) On the one hand, you are saying that this ISN'T a closed cycle > since you get useful work out of it, and yet you then claim that it is > a closed cycle because you get the water from the beginning back again > (i.e., it is not permanently changed into anything else). > > Sean > yes, absolutely agree your doubt, refer to :- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db1o48QyRJM I heard about "fuel cell" in 2 months ago, I've more doubt ever. where is the total energy from ? base on my understand, electrolysis is just a "trigger" here please see carefully until finish this video, is 2 types of chemical reaction, first: electrolysis, second: "metal" + HHO (ion state), some kind of corrode impact, "metal" I can hear he said "aluminum", which have live-span. I still not understand the membrane that mansions in this video. very interesting "fuel cell". best regards cllow2020 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist