my intention is to getter info; thought; knowledge; to share experiments & result for someone who interested in this subject, could be an expert here have gone through experiment it before, so that I would not go through same thing again, and assist on my car's water igniter ECU programming. that is first thing pop-up in my mind to put in [EE]. I've no intention to sales or doing business here. and thank you for commend at [EE], really light-up my mind. conventional way of electrolysis produce a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen does help on my car mileage increase 10% to 20% depend on town drive or highway, however, I'm more interest to find out water molecule under high voltage & frequency impulse, cause dielectric failure, more like fracturing water instead of electrolysis. water as fuel is interesting experiment subject. best regards -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist