It was a $500 car, didn't bother pulling the head off, the crank was bent though. you couldn't turn it by hand with all the plugs removed. Carl Denk wrote: > Was the valve damage on the engine that squirted in the face? I asked > for actual experience, not conceptions. If I read the below correctly, > changed the head gasket, probably changed oil, and engine was OK, which > is the common blown head gasket scenario. > > Jake Anderson wrote: > >> blown head gasket lets water into the cylinder, Think *very blown*. >> I have seen a blown head in a car put enough water into a cylinder to >> actually squirt somebody in the face from about 2 meters away through >> the spark plug hole (we removed the plug) >> If the gasket was damaged and leaking then you would get the loss of >> power etc and quite conceivably a busted up plug and the busted valve. >> I'd guess those would be done while trying to start the engine after >> hammering it while it was running. >> >> If they haven't pulled the head off the engine you could fill the >> engines coolant passages with water and see if it fills the cylinders again. >> >> But still the best bet is the oil, its the only thing that's going to >> show the engine running for a period of time with water present >> otherwise they could blame the blown gasket on injested water >> >> Oh btw, if it goes poorly, keep in mind you should get the old engine >> ;-> new valve and gasket and your on your way. >> >> Carl Denk wrote: >> >> >>> How do you explain the battered sparkplug and broken valve with the >>> blown head gasket scenario? The coolant hot and hard starting is new >>> evidence. That could be (and there are other scenarios) water in the >>> lube oil, and the start of loss of lubrication, increased friction, and >>> seizing/galling of bearing surfaces, or failed water pump, or, or, or... >>> A blown head gasket allows coolant (water) in the combustion chamber, >>> which (absence of really bad piston rings or a hole in the piston) could >>> leak slowly into the crankcase, in general only while engine is stopped. >>> Generally the engine still runs, though rough and power down a bit, with >>> no major damage. When going to start the engine, major damage to >>> crankshaft, connecting rod and/or piston along with possible structural >>> damage to head and crankcase due to liquid not being compressible. Has >>> anyone had actual experience contrary to this. >>> >>> And yes, homeowners or renter insurance might cover this, need to read >>> the words, there are all kinds of quirks including horsepower limits and >>> number of passengers. Ours covers golf carts, but not if equipped for >>> road use or if on a public road. We have several golf courses in our >>> area that require crossing a public road to play the back holes. Better >>> not hit a anything while crossing the road. >>> >>> Martin K wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Almost definitely a blown head gasket. Are you "covered" in that case? >>>> And why doesn't any insurance cover this? Was there optional insurance >>>> you could have purchased to cover it? >>>> - >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> Vitaliy wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> - When I was riding the jet ski, the "Coolant Hot" light came on. Per >>>>> instructions, I slowly rode it to the shore and let the engine cool. I >>>>> noticed that there was steam coming out of a tube on the right side of the >>>>> jet ski (toward the front). I have a feeling this is when the water started >>>>> slowly leaking into the engine. >>>>> >>>>> - After the "Coolant Hot" event, it became increasingly difficult to start >>>>> the engine. At first, all it took was a brief push of the "Start" button. As >>>>> the time went on, it became more and more difficult to get the engine to >>>>> start. >>>>> >>>>> - Eventually, enough water got into the engine to cause it to stall. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist