> > Belated 4th of July rant over. I'm sure that patriots in > all nations > > can understand my ire. > > > > On Aug 9, 2008, at 11:47 PM, Cedric Chang wrote: > > Sad to be a citizen of the USA > > Pointing out where your country is making mistakes or doing > evil is the most patriotic thing you can do. In the end, our > country is what it is NOW, not 100 or 200 years ago. If we > have flaws, expose and fix them. > It's the best way to honor the principles it was founded on. > It's not unpatriotic to feel sad about your country if you > feel it's heading in the wrong direction. Sure, but it doesn't take long for 'pointing out flaws' to become 'random useless whining & complaining'. If you don't like it, go fix it. If you can't fix it, at least offer a solution along with your complaining. Geez, I'd even settle for a decent explanation about WHY you think something sucks. Besides, complaining to a bunch of nerds is going to achieve.....??? If I want to hear incessant complaining about 'that sucks', 'you're all idiots', 'I don't like this place', 'voting is for morons', 'gah fascists!!' then I'd take a 2-year old to a supermarket. Tony -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist