-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wouter van Ooijen wrote: |> | How often do you need to verify program memory at Vdd limits? |> |> ... like the $35 PK2 can? | | It can, but only when both extremes of Vdd are well below the voltage | level of the USB but, which can be below 4.5 V. I would not call that a | true 'production' grade programmer. | Agreed, it only applies if you know your particular USB port provides enough voltage to meet the extremes of the target chip's VDD range. That said... anyone up for making a tiny circuit (I'm thinking, around the size of a flash stick) that plugs into a USB port and has a little tiny switching boost regular, plus maybe a linear, and brings whatever you have on the port up to a perfect 5V? Then you'd just plug a regular USB cable into the other side of the circuit. You could market it at EEs as a way to stabilize voltage so you can use cheap programmers like the PK2 (perhaps sell an adjustable-voltage version for testing USB functions at both legal extremes of Vbus?), and also market it at the general public as a cheap way to get an expensive, not-quite-legal USB function to work with an expensive, not quite-legal USB host. It probably wouldn't be legal USB though, for connector reasons as well as current reasons (standby would be annoying?) Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: GnuPT 2.7.2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkieUfwACgkQiD2svb/jCb5/fgCgpX++xNGBFP8ktlMd/q440YqH j8AAniBtZyvJ2SsYIzAeYmjwpKCmTFOM =gH63 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist