Mark Rages wrote: > The problem is, Microchip's definition of "production programmer" is > not at all clear. It used to be that production programmers verified the programmed data at the Vdd limits of the chip. Verifying with some margin is good practise in any case, but there is more to the full spirit of a "production" programmer than this simple requirement. In production you have to expect parts accross the full spec sheet range of the various parameters. You need something that is careful about adhering to the specs, and something that verifies the result and itself to a good extent. Field failures are expensive, but the cost of a PIC programmer is very little per unit accross all the production lots. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist