Vitaliy wrote: > IIRC, it was Herbert who suggested using Philips bulbs in a similar > thread a while back, and I must say the difference is indeed very > drastic (just as he describes). Paradoxically, Philips bulbs weren't > that much more expensive (certainly not x2) than the other CFLs > available at the store. Philips does seem to have pretty good QC compared to off-brands. In California CFL's are subsidised by the electric company. I have never paid more than about a dollar for a CFL. Last time I bought some (Philips brand at Costco) they were about $.75 for the "60 watt equivalents" and $1.05 for the "100 watt equivalents". Consequently I use them almost everywhere. The name brands have nicer light and fewer early failures than the generics. But basically they last a long time on average. Failure modes are pretty varied. Some have almost melted down. Slow starting at low temperatures and short lifespan at high temperatures. So I don't use them in outdoor fixtures or in the attic. I prefer them to white LEDs in terms of light quality. I have trouble seeing with the light from white LEDs. Cheerful regards, Bob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist