>I seem to quite often need to run a "voltage present" LED >on a very wide > range of voltages... For instance, in one case the input > voltage can > run from 5 to 60VDC, or more. > I'm hoping I can find something just marginally more > expensive than > putting a current limiting resistor in place. Is there > some magic > circuit I've missed... Here is Richard Prosser's version of "my" G.S.R.* switching regulator. D8 may not be needed. Despite apparent high parts count it can be very small and cheap. http://others.servebeer.com/misc/gsr_rp.gif Roman Black's "Black Regulator" is perhaps slightly cheaper. While it has poorer regulation it may well be adequate for your needs. I have had a version of this operating from 12V to 200 V in. Here is an independently developed version which is essentially identical. http://sound.westhost.com//appnotes/an006.htm A simple change to a constant current output drive (suited to LED use) is seen here http://sound.westhost.com//appnotes/an003.htm If a P Channel MOSFET is used for the high side switch remember to zener clamp the gate to avoid death at higher Vin's. This is a "hysteretic converter". Operation as shown is marvellously chaotic. Operating frequency and PWM ratio varies vastly, which allows it to achieve the vast max:min Vinput ratios that it does. Hysteresis DOS exist despite some refusing to believe it. Clue: Ripple on output cap is an essential part of the operation. Adding a series RC (location left to the student) will provide extra and more normal hysteresis and a more determinate waveform. MAY help efficiency somewhat. For an IC solution a MC34063 would be cheap and goodish. Vinmax = 40V so a cheap external transistor probably required for drive. Russell GSR = God's Switching Regulator. Story offlist on request. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist