> My guess as to why they are such a problem up here is that > they failed to > take into account the over 55 degC ambient temperatures > inside a traffic > light on a hot southern New England summer day. Add in all > the heat from the > LEDs and it wouldn't surprise me if on some days it's well > over 80 degC in > the light fixture. Temperature is a great killer of LEDs. 10C increases can decrease lifetimes by 2 to 10 times depending on other factors. It doesn't take many 2X reductions to turn 100,000 hours into disaster. Philips / Luxeon / Lumiled have some excellent material available on lumen maintenance wrt temperature and mA drawn (essentially independent variables wrt effect despite usually being linked in practice by practical realities). eg you can get all combinations of IxTy and with differing results. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist