On Jul 10, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Tom=E1s =D3 h=C9ilidhe wrote: > > > Gerhard Fiedler wrote: >> 2008-05-07 is the one that's least ambiguous. It's always yyyy-mm- = >> dd. I >> think there's an ISO standard for it. > > > And I bet it's 200 pages long :-D And if you're really unlucky, instead of using ISO standards, you have = to live in the telecom world where the ITU is the place to go. ITU = standards will often have an Annex -- an add-on that changes the = standard completely. And if it's from ITU it costs big money to get a "real" copy. And = upon receiving it and reading it you find that it describes six = different ways to do the same thing, therefore doesn't "define" a = standard at all. Start with ITU H.320, compare to H.323 -- one's ISDN, the other IP -- = but after that they're the same. Then try to find all of the = appropriate videoconferencing standards underneath H.323. Then = realize that you're looking for an audio answer and the overlying = standard just calls out other standards, in this case... it's actually = G.729.1 Annex C that you're REALLY trying to find. And shake your head when you realize that G.729.1 and G.729.1 Annex C = aren't even using the same technology or CODEC, but ended up the same = number because G.729 was "extensible". Did the above just this week... because some $20 software client said = it did G.729.1 and the customer thought that meant it would do G.729.1 = Annex C. And we pay for the privilege of having copies of this slop. :-) -- Nate Duehr nate@natetech.com -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist