On Jul 4, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Peter wrote: > The way I see it, fraud is not the merchant's business to solve I dunno. The fraudulent uses of OUR credit cards seem to have most likely originated at the merchants... (probably not the merchant themselves, just a dishonest employee, of course. But that still seems to be a "merchant" problem.) Prior to theft of bulk databases from online vendors, I would have expected the vast majority of fraudulent credit card use to originate that way, with actual stolen cards being a distant second... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist