>> First I got myself one of those USB to RS232 adapters. Didn't work. I recommend getting the adapter to work; they DO (in general) work. I thought almost anything would work with windows, but ... Try a brand-name adaptor as a starting point. They're more expensive, but then you might be able to call and get support if you have troubles... > the ExpressCard connector has a USB channel in it I think, which is > what > lower-speed devices (serial adapters, card readers) tend to use. That's funny... So you have two separate USB/Serial adaptors that fail to work; perhaps you have some conflicting USB driver loaded in your PC, or something... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist