> It's good to have newcomers in a field which has so many "that's > just how it's always been" methods and means If nothing else, the [EE] and [PIC] traffic sure has gone way up in volume, and most of it is legitimate. Scarcely an [OT] for ages. I hesitate to draw a link between that and Russell being in China ;-) BTW, Tomas, I hope you realise that we're all generally quite light-hearted and don't intend to be too mean-spirited when answering your questions. But you have tripped off a couple of your own mines. Got to be careful giving people ammo. And then handing over the gun too (hmmm, rather a military theme there) Your topics have actually raised some interesting issues Named snooker balls for the colour-blind - are there products that could be enhanced ? Not that you want the place looking like a half-finished paint-by-numbers. Or the Bat Cave And the LED colour selection for the Connect 4 game. Now I think perhaps you get an inkling of how much work a circuit design really needs before you can call it a "Product" -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist