-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 01:56:24AM -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote: Doh, this ended up in my sent-mail, but never got past that... weird... > >Isn't the trick with Charlie-plexing that you are exploiting that the > >combined forward voltage of two leds in series is high enough that a > >single led in parallel will take all the current? My 12V will be > >significantly higher than the forward voltage of the diodes used. > > I think with the sneak paths you'd get 12V/3 = 4V across the coils that are > not supposed to be energized. If that's too much to guarantee *no* flipping > then it won't work reliably without all those diodes. I did some quick experimentation, the coils can be reliably flipped with as little as 3V with a unknown by hand pulse-width, and that same 3V accross three dots fails to flip them. That said, in a private email someone found the supplier of my modules. As far as I can tell they just put their website online within the past few months: http://www.flipdots.com/EN/electromagnetic_displays/products/page-5/dot_stripes.html The 2.7" modules are the exact ones I have, which they are now making with original tooling bought from the defunct MARK IV FP Electronics. They specify a 350ma minimum current, achievable with 1ms pulse at 7.5V given the coils inductance. Anyway, I may build up a pulse tester and see how well things work in temperature extremes, and from unit to unit, although diodes would be safer. FWIW this is a quite nice work of art using these things: http://www.troika.uk.com/cloud.htm > A 3-cent BAV99 each isn't so bad. Yup, $64.74/1000x and $200 worth of labour. :) - -- http://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIYl8w3bMhDbI9xWQRAkiwAJ4t8JL+yyA1FbSfmSbHXq5AvlMPTACeIIPh UrS/3K3RKl44RneaEKI6aDs= =HYeY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist