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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008, Apptech wrote:

> >> >>> You are quite annoying...
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> >> >> Hi Nicola, did you mean "boring" :) i.e. the "false
> >> >> friend" ?
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> >> > yes! You are right!
> >> > I haven't time to take a good english course... sigh...
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> >> Then, critiquing what other people are saying in English=20
> >> is
> >> a dangerous choice, alas.
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> >> Notice that the large majority of English speakers would=20
> >> see
> >> no link whatsoever between the words
> >>
> >>     boring    and    false friend.
> >>
> >> I do not know what words you are intending but that's not
> >> what would be conveyed to most people on this list.
> >
> > You were being accused of not being genuine.
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> I understand that from the discussion that followed.
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> BUT neither "boring" nor "annoying" means anything like 'not=20
> being genuine' in English.

When you translate, it's not just the words. The guy felt you had made=20
your point and were overstating it, as in "ok you've made your point ->=20
why haven't you stopped -> is this really for my benefit -> you are being=
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disingenuious about wanting to help me"

At least that's what came over to me.

> An English as first language=20
> speaker would *NEVER* use those words to mean that OR=20
> understand those words to mean that.
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> I have of course no problem with people having trouble with=20
> English, or trying hard to use it.
> BUT in such cases it is probably extremely wise to assume=20
> that the speaker may not mean what you think he does.

I agree, but communication is a two way thing. It's no good just giving=20
him the benefit of the doubt. You also need to make your side of the=20
conversation easier to understand

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> In this case I was completely genuine.
> I have been called a liar several times now by several=20
> people over this (although the word liar was not used).
> For myself it matters little, as I know what I said and why=20
> I said it (and Tom=C3=A1s =C3=93 h=C3=89ilidhe knows as well, which is wh=
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> matters most here).
> BUT it is sad to see people consistently insist on neither=20
> reading well what I wrote or trying to understand the evil=20
> that I was seeking to avoid by writing.
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People are not "insisting on misunderstanding" you. Lately you seem to be=
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going over the top with your writing style. You really need to make your=20
statements shorter and simpler.

Best Regards
Friendly Regards
Best wishes
Hugs and kisses
:-)

Sergio Masci
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