--===============0341838680== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by pch.mit.edu id m5JJdZG8017845 I'm just having no advantage by speaking two languages, playing with sche= matics and layouts all day in my tiny dark office. I wish our products wi= ll be shipped to China and I could be some local product manager in the f= uture. =20 I've seen so many cultural conflicts happening in China throughout these = years, tradition, communist, capitalism.... Take Beijing as an example, = many traditional houses and walls were destroyed, with modern stadiums f= or Olympic Games built. It's really hard to tell which way is right, I g= uess it's just some growing pains. =20 > From: rgrazia1@rochester.rr.com> To: piclist@mit.edu> Subject: Re: [OT]= :: Shanghai calling> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:40:58 -0400> > It has been= my experience that people are often ignorant of the things about > which= they are curious. It is sometimes challenging to be patient but it is > = often the wise decision. I have spent many years traveling and a great de= al > of time in China, I might add. I found that many Chinese had preconc= eived > notions of America that were simply untrue. But I could understan= d why.> I have seen many changes in China over the years, especially in S= hanghai > and Beijing. But the same is true for other Asian countries, ti= me and > technology brings change. The fact that your boss is "pure white= " probably > has nothing to do with his curiosity. He has probably not ta= ken the > responsibility for educating himself and sees you as an immedia= te authority. > I take it as a sign of respect for you. I found that lear= ning Chinese was > valuable but I only le arned Mandarin. I can only say a few words in > Cantonese. I was, in som= e ways, disappointed to see some of the very old > part of Beijing (Pekin= g) destroyed, but I suppose that is part of change. > You might advise hi= m to learn some of the basic characters and some basic > conversation wit= h attention to proper tones. Unless he is going to do > business or inter= act with officials, he only needs basic conversation > skills. I think yo= u have great advantages having Chinese language skills and > English skil= ls. I have little Chinese way back in my background. But I > grew up in A= merica and did not learn Chinese until I decided to go to China.> > > ---= -- Original Message ----- > From: "gardenyu" > = To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." > Sent: = Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:02 AM> Subject: RE: [OT]:: Shanghai calling> >= > >> >> > I'm from Shanghai,although been in US for years, my opinions m= ay well > > worth looking at.> >> > My bo ss ( a pure US white man) wanted to visit China, he kept asking me: > > = do you have enough hospitals? do you have church? etc. I always answer hi= s > > questions with a little "anger". What his impression on China is st= ill > > somewhat "from film". But nowadays, you may still find many ancie= nt > > sightseeings like the Great Wall, but as to Shanghai, it is nothin= g > > different from other metropolitans all around the world. Given days= , you > > may find that human nature is quite similar, maybe a little dif= ferent in > > habits only.You may find quite some pros and cons about Chi= na, but take a > > little forgiveness, it's with a 1.5 billion population= .> >> >> > As to the sightseeing in Shanghai. I would say you will find m= any > > architects realizing their dreams in China ( cheap labor!). If yo= u are > > standing on the west coast of The Bund, on your side is what ca= lled > > "global exhibition", full of large buildings from different coun= tries who > > invaded Shanghai before, bu t on the other end called "Pudong" across the > > river, you'll see all = those modern miracles, like a huge TV tower, a > > 88-storeys building, e= tc. Ypu'd better arrive at night, the lights are > > just wonderful.> >> = > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bund> >> >> > If you have time, go hav= e some good meals in Shanghai. We haven't had > > something called electr= ical engineering for thousands of years, during > > which we developed am= azing cuisine styles. It is nothing like" sweet and > > sour chicken" and= if you may spend just hundreds of bucks or pounds, > > you'll forget you= r "white bread" for the rest of life.> >> >> > Besides, Qingdao is famous= for its beer and beach. And if you arrive at > > "Pudong international a= irport" in Shanghai, there is a Maglev outside who > > travels at 500 kil= imeters an hour.> >> >> >> >> >> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:21:26 +1200> F= rom: apptech@paradise.net.nz> > >> Subject: [OT]:: Shanghai calling> To: = PICLIST@MIT.EDU> > I'm off to China > >>=20 Saturday evening (45 or so hours from now) > for one week> Only an > >> = internet away ... :-). Qingdao. Hotel internet is > good.> > I'll be > >>= passing through Shanghai on the way back.> No other opportunities for > = >> touristing as my wife assure me > that I'm meeting the rest of the fam= ily > >> in Brisbane to start > a long planned holiday.> I'm transiting b= etween > >> the two airports with a major aim of > riding the high speed = maglev > >> "Bullet Train" - probably the > fastest I will ever travel on= land (or in > >> this case JUST off > land).> > Apart from that, what ca= n I see most > >> worthwhilely in > Shanghai in about 2 hours. I spent a = few hours just > >> walking > the city centre a few months back (many pho= tos).> > The Bund is > >> said to be worth seeing - and I have no idea > = what it offers in views, > >> but will be then.> Any other encapsulated m= ust do's for a whistle s> > top city > crossing tourist.> > > > Russell> = > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/S X FAQ & list archive> View/change your > > membership options at> http:/= /mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist> > ____________________________= _____________________________________> > Windows Live Photo gallery =CA=FD= =C2=EB=CF=E0=BB=FA=B5=C4=B3=AC=BC=B6=B0=E9=C2=C2=A3=AC=C7=E1=CB=C9=B9=DC=C0= =ED=BA=CD=B1=E0=BC=AD=D5=D5=C6=AC=A3=AC=BB=B9=C4=DC=D6=C6=D7=F7=C8=AB=BE=B0= =C3=C0=CD=BC=A3=A1> > http://get.live.cn/product/photo.html> > > --------= ------------------------------------------------------------------------>= > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive> > View/ch= ange your membership options at> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinf= o/piclist> > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ =B6=E0=B8=F6=D3=CA=CF=E4=CD=AC=B2=BD=B9=DC=C0=ED=A3=AClive mail=BF=CD=BB=A7= =B6=CB=CD=F2=C8=CB=C7=C0=D3=C3=D6=D0 http://get.live.cn/product/mail.html --===============0341838680== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --===============0341838680==--