> ii) I'm surprised that y'all haven't checked the available 
> internet resources before asking what something means. You 
> were asking, weren't you? :-)

actually I *did* check, but only found the Latin explanation that (to 
me) did not make any obvious sense. I hope you did not mean JE to be a 
stand in for O in the negative sense?

> My point was not just to be picky (although I may have 
> erred, perhaps, just maybe, can it be) a little too far that 
> way, but to suggest that "steel fist in velvet glove" / 
> "walk softly, carry a big stick" may elicit better results 
> than "the beatings will continue until morale improves". 

There are different viewpoints on this matter. If the "velvet gloves" 
start criticizing the "big sticks", they might expect some criticism in 
return! So maybe we should all just answer the questions asked, and 
refrain from (non-technical) comment on the styles of the answers?

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