> ... and of course it is ... Translation: As I suspected it would be. > Lazy... Translation: 1. I'm standing in as a locum. or 2. I'm tired of posting here anyway. or 3. ... ? > ... you havn't even cared to ... Translation: 1. ... you don't appear to have ... > MCLR shoud *not* be left open. And you should *not* try to use "internal MCLR" at this stage. There is no reason to go into details at this stage, just don't try it... Translation: This snippet of valuable information , unlike the other, may not be obvious from the data sheet for a beginner but I'm not going to tell you why. Just trust me on this. After all, what option do you have? R -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist