> some people don't necessarily want to learn the ins and outs of > uC, but still want to get something done with a microcontroller James, I appreciate that, but there's nevertheless a big difference between "where is that in the datasheet ?" and "I've read it and don't understand / need help with this bit". Of course it's possible to write code for a PIC without ever powering one up, but if you want that code running IN a PIC you have to know how to do that part too, and that's when you have to have a little patience and RTFM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist