>You might check out the 16f84 data sheet: > http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/devicedoc/35007b.pdf > > The figures 10-7, 10-8, and 10-9 give graphs of RC oscillator I put some numbers to that http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/0f84rc.html High-speed RC is easily reliable, too many influences that need time to correct. Time better spent going to the crystal shop -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist