Bob Blick wrote: > I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Are you challenging me just for > the heck of it? > I wish you'd have answered my reply to your assertions instead of being aggressive. Of course I'm not challenging you for the heck of it. Let me try to clear things a little. You have intervened in a thread where the topic was, from the beginning, whether Olin should be allowed to keep bashing "the lazy people that deserve it" without being moderated. You jumped in to offer your services as administrator to "fix" the list so I presumed it was to fix the problem at hand - "Prevent Olin from bashing members of the list". >From there came my straight and forward question: "As administrator, how will you prevent Olin from bashing other members of the list? What do I get as answer? Mainly a run around on my use of the word "prevent". Nonetheless, I get the impression that you excuse and maybe approve of Olin's bullying behavior :-( As for your agenda to become administrator, I read through your posts to Russel and Byron that the fixing you are referring to has not much to do with Olin's uncivil behavior but more with Russel posting. I concede that some people have problem swith this but it would be better, if it is what you want to fix, that you state it directly. > I don't understand your motivation for hassling me like > this. I've been a member of the piclist for ten years and know how good > it can be. I know that you have been member for as long as I remember and I must tell you that I never miss and always enjoyed reading your technical contributions. But from your intervention in this thread, it seems you are unaware of Olin's past history with the list members before this /*[ADMIN]:Question about member*/ thread started. You are offended to see people saying what they think of Olin 's past behavior but what you are really seeing is people reacting to Olin's past behavior of bullying and bashing and trying to prevent it in the future. Prove me wrong. > Your attitude is crummy. This remark is undeserved, me thinks :-[ > We need to unite and work together and repair the spirit of the > piclist. What is there to repair? Look, for example, at the variety and number of PIC/EE threads, the number of answers to each and the number of intervenors since the date this topic started. The list is as rich as ever. And moreover, different people seem willing to ask questions and volunteer solutions. As far as I'm concerned this is a lot more desirable than a few show-offs fighting for the most visibility and bashing the OP when the question is not good enough for them to look brilliant. Given time, everything can be found on the net. It is a matter of using the right keyword and patience. Everybody knows that. The best piclist has someone /*expert enough*/ to help one save time by providing a hint instead of the /*Real Expert*/ bashing you of laziness and giving you the useless RTFM reply. > Please stop trying to pick a fight. It is not productive. > > This applies equally to everybody, I'm afraid ;-) Regards, Gaston P.S. English not being my primary language, please forgive if my tone is sometimes not appropriate. > Gaston Gagnon wrote: > >> Bob Blick wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:05:12 -0400, "Gaston Gagnon" >>> said: >>> >>> >>>> Administrators are appreciated for decision making ;-) >>>> >>>> "As administrator, how will he prevent Olin from bashing other >>>> members of the list? >>>> >>>> Gaston >>>> >>>> >>> Hi Gaston, >>> >>> So far this morning, the only bashing involving Olin has been against >>> him. >>> >>> >>> >> Bob I think you should reread Fred Jones message and also the first >> message Olin published today. Fred was posting a reply to your assertion: >> >> /*Olin is a busy man who is educated, intelligent, and fully employed. He >> does not market the piclist with his products or troll for customers. He >> doesn't help people in order to stroke his ego. He helps because he is a >> generous person.*/ >> >> >> >>> I don't understand why you use the word "prevent". There's nothing to >>> prevent people from running red lights - they can do it if they want to. >>> >>> >> Try running red lights in front of a policeman he will certainly give >> you a few "incentives" to change your behavior with respect of following >> the rules. He will therefore "prevent" you in a certain way from running >> red lights next time. >> >>> Sometimes it might even be justified, if the intersection is blocked and >>> there's a fire truck behind you trying to get through. >>> >>> >>> >> You can also end up in hospital along with innocent bystanders or even >> worse win yourself an indefinite ban from the piclist ;-) >> >> >>> What I'd like to see is everyone to add a little extra decency to their >>> own behavior. Right now some people are trying to pick a fight with >>> Olin. Those are the people who need to look within. >>> >>> >>> >> Again reread Fred's message. >> >> From your writing it seems you have joined the piclist on 2008-05-31 at >> 19:51 >> so welcome to the piclist. >> >> Gaston >> P.S. If I was delinquent I would love to have you as my champion :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist