I'm skimming and can't spend the time at present to address some of Bob's undoubtedly important points. (A large Gaggle of BOGO lights call ...). But I'll just comment on one point where Bob's comment was essentially correct but also inadvertently possibly accidentally misleading . > We don't need a category for global > warming. There are already entire sites for those > discussions, here's > one that Russell already contributes to: > http://hot-topic.co.nz/2008/04/22/the-sincerest-form-of-flat-earthery/ 'Has contributed to". I do not as an almost 100% rule spend time posting on other lists blogs or whatever. I do not roam the internet world proclaiming on Global Warming, or anything else. I DO do lot's of reading, and report back the distilled essence, where it seems appropriate, to my family on the PICList. I have one other list where I am active - ARocket. Contributing to the thread that Bob refers to was a most unusual exception to my practices. There was one really bolshy character making unsupported and unsupportable statements about AGW AND referring to a website of scientific papers and a blog which he appeared to be the sole author of. I cam apon the thread due to an AGWite slanging a NZ commentator. The merits of the detractor may be adduced from the fact that he said that he had been thinking of rebutting Freeman Dydon's recent comments but considered that that would be "like shooting fish in a barrel", so he had decided not to. Anyone with that much ability compared to Freeman Dyson would indeed be an awesome intellect to tangle with. So, I joined the fray for a wee while, but after he got stuck in an ad hominem and similar loop for a while I didn't persist, But, it's nice to see that Bob's keeping track of my internet activities :-) ___________________________ And, oh OK, I'll be drawn on one other point for now. > I'm volunteering to help take the piclist back > in time ten years. Indeed. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist