>Use the AD reference at 4V or so. Where do you get inexpensive >4V or so reference? >TL431 or LM431 Anyone looking for low noise accurate references may like to look at the new Analog Devices range. Look at the ADR44x range, each voltage output comes in 2 grades of tolerance, and includes 2.048 and 4.096V references. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist