>... But I am willing to put some effort into fixing > what I perceive to be wrong. ... I'll need help, too, so > I'd like to > hear from people who think this is a good idea. > > But I am offering to help so please take me seriously. The more resources the better, all else being equal. It's not obvious that this have to be either/or though. If eg you ran a list with well defined guidelines that had substantial technical value, tighter admin control on what was acceptable material and a different ethos to PIClist, people who valued both could belong to both at little cost to either group - in fact hopefully overall synergy for both lists. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist