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Von: "Mike Hord" <mike.hord@gmail.com>
An: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <piclist@mit.edu>
Gesendet: Montag, 09. Juni 2008 15:00
Betreff: Re: [ADMIN]: Question about member


> > ...and I have also met [Olin] personally at one of the Masters conferen=
ce
> > and personally he is really a nice guy !!
> =

> Thus far I've avoided comment because I cherish the S/N ratio we usually
> experience but I have to comment on this one.
> =

> This to me is absolutely the most direct argument for a ban.  =


I think we are not at a convent school - the question is: is there a value =
for the list if a member will be banned off? My answer is clearly a no.

When I first asked a question at the list, more or less in a helpless state=
, I got an answer where to look. The tone wasn't exactly I liked but - it g=
ave me the right direction where to search and I solved my (more or less) u=
nnecessary question.
A more friendlier answer would have been appreciated but I thought about th=
e german saying: Who asks dumb get a dumb answer - and I asked more or less=
 dumb and the answer wasn't dumb it was only a little bit uncordial. =




> From what
> I've seen, Olin is the kind of guy who's nice to his family, a good emplo=
yer,
> and probably even a passable friend, but put him in a situation where he
> has no lasting consequences (for instance, being rude won't cost him the
> respect of his family/friends, cause a valuable employee to quit, or chase
> a client away from his business)(examples of this kind of thing include
> budging in the queue at the market, cutting people off in traffic, being =
an
> ass to people in a public information exchange) and he has no innate
> internal moral sense that tells him what is right and what is wrong.

Let me ask, please: from where do you get the wisdom and authority to adjud=
icate on somebody? Maybe it's your personal opinion, your personal conclusi=
on - or is it your personal experience with Olin off the list? So if it is =
your experience then please state it.

 =

> For anyone on this list who has silently gritted their teeth after being
> cutoff in traffic, or who quietly stood by and let the pushy kid budge
> in the queue, or has otherwise been slighted by someone whose
> scruples end where the consequences do, just once let's pull that guy
> over, take away his keys and say "We don't appreciate that conduct
> and you aren't welcome here.  We've offered to let you play by the
> rules and you've thumbed your nose."

Sorry but this is not my opinion. I silently gritted my teeth but can't liv=
e with. So I think you will speak personally for you but not for all who gr=
itted their teeth.

> =

> Mike H.


Enrico Sch.

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