I responded some days ago but tagged the response [OT] as there was a call 
to move this thread to OT. So we've had one thread in OT and another in 
ADMIN (which it seems doesn't even exits).

A little way down the road we get a post from Olin in the OT thread that 
he doesn't read OT posts.

Rather than adding to all the chatter I've submitted my vote and I've been 
waiting for the result.

Personnally I don't like Olin's attitude and I think he should remain 
moderated. Actually I'd prefer if he'd just go set up his own list.

A big "thank you" to all the admins for all their work. I really don't 
know how you put up with all this crap. Personnally I wouldn't have put 
up with half the crap.

Regards
Sergio Masci


On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Apptech wrote:

> *** SHEEPLE - call to arms ***
> *** SHEEPLE - call to arms ***
> *** SHEEPLE - call to arms ***
> *** SHEEPLE - call to arms ***
> *** SHEEPLE - call to arms ***
> 
> 
> Ad hominem is not something I'm oft too comfy with.
> But, sometimes the homme need adzing ... :-).
> 
> ___________
> 
> 
> > This is pure libel.  I expect a public correction.
> 
> Maybe it just felt that way to him in the circumstances :-).
> (My recollection (dim) was that said post also said 
> something like
> 
>     ' ... and I can log on with a new ID any time you ban me 
> and you can't stop me doing so , so there, and btw your 
> mother wears army boots ... '
> 
> - maybe the last part of that doesn't sound quite right ? 
> :-) )
> 
> BUT, and no suggestions here that two wrongs make a right, 
> you too have been dishing out slander and libel mixed with 
> opinion and some fact at vast length lately, almost all 
> targeted at James. While it has in part been packaged within 
> admin/management/ ... language it is James who you have been 
> roundly bollocking in email after email and for day after 
> day. You have queried his management, no - I take that 
> back - you have said his management is totally wrong. You 
> have queried his integrity, or insinuated lack of it. You 
> have commented so very righteously on his lack of 
> consistency. Et al ...  . You have said that many are 
> unhappy with his management. You have said ... . Well ... 
> you know what you've said.
> 
> Elsewhere you'd in many cases be unlucky to get past the 
> second such missive without waking up dead. Being admin and 
> moderator carries some extra privileges on the vast majority 
> of lists and having people wake up dead is one of them. Here 
> the basic desire to be decent, even in the face of 
> indecency, let's your notionally censored flames blaze out 
> across the list. Again and again and again.
> 
> What rather stuns me, were it not that I've become somewhat 
> apathetic about human apathy, is the utter volume of the 
> sheeples response. It's loudness has been astounding. The 
> number of posts amazing.
> 
> Wake up sheeple, people and general list denizens.
> 
> This is your commander and chief that Olin is bollocking 
> here day after day in his less than finely crafted attacks. 
> How do you think that is liable to be going down in list 
> owner central? Put yourself in James' shoes trying to bend 
> over backwards to accommodate such stuff.
> 
> What message is being put across when Olin can spew his 
> assertions day after day with a minimum of comment from the 
> sheeples.
> 
> Meanwhile, encouraged by the stunning lack of bleatings of 
> support from the assembled masses, Olin grows stronger and 
> louder and more strident.
> 
> Where do you think this is going to end?
> 
> Unmoderate Olin, by all means,
> Allow him the special case of all or nothing as he desires - 
> behave badly and be banned for whatever time.
> Then let him get on with being the incredible useful person 
> he can be and exercising his undoubtedly vast talents driven 
> by his indisputably high intelligence. And let him blow 
> himself off the list every now and then. With perhaps rules 
> for all that make the return times exponentially longer for 
> frequent repeats.
> 
> ********* BUT ***********
> 
> DO NOT sit there like stupid Sheeples (are there any other 
> sort) and let him get stuck into the guy who spends his time 
> making this the place you enjoy. Tell James what you think 
> about how he's doing. Tell the other admins too. Tell Olin 
> that he's wrong - because he is.
> Point out that happy sheeples are quiet sheeples and that 
> it's only in cases of extreme bullying that they are liable 
> to awake to action.
> 
> Do it now!!!!!!
> Or, wish you had.
> 
> 
> 
>         Russell
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