Peter wrote: > ... A line filter > is the inline 'box' type of RLC filter used to remove EMI from mains wiring. > E.g. from Corcom etc. That wouldn't be too hard or expensive to do, I'll have to order a couple of filters with my next order to Mouser, Jameco, etc. > The effect you are seeing is likely caused by the wire > going out acting as an antenna and coupling common mode current into the GFI. > That's the sort of thing I was thinking was happening, but that being out of my normal turf, I didn't know the words to use. :) > There is a reason for which mains hauling switchgear is more intelligent than a > GFI and makes several 'self repair' attempts in such a fault case, before giving > up. Typically after a nearby lightning strike the breakers restart after 60 > seconds, and try it again three times, waiting successively longer times. If > there is a short or repeated trips within that amount of time they stay off and > operator intervention is needed. We are on a rural electric cooperative power utility, and their switchgear tries 3 time within about 10 seconds to reset before giving up. If a tree branch or Squirrel (small mammal) briefly causes a short, all is fine, otherwise a crew is dispatched to fix the problem. Recently a crew was replacing a 3 phase pole, and instead of going to the substation, and opening the breaker, I think the took a hot stick with a ground conductor and brought the circuit down, because we got the 3 resets before it went down for the duration of their work. Now I am on their call list before they take us down for maintenance. The house main has a whole house surge suppressor, and I am generous with suppressors around the house at equipment. Last thing I lost was a 2 years ago, a dialup modem, but that came in the phone line, which now has a suppressor on it also. Glad it wasn't an internal modem! > I don't think that you want to copy this > behavior. The line filters will likely reduce the sensitivity of your coherer > receiver to reasonable levels. They should have no impact on the normal GFI > functionality. I don't know what your code says about outdoor electrical > installations but I am fairly sure that this type of thing (30 meters of mains > to an outside building just like that) is totally illegal in most places when > not installed and checked by an authorized electrician. I don't even want to > think about what permits would be needed to use such an electrical installation > anywhere near a producing gas well, even if it would not be next to a house. > Actually electric power at a gas well is common. The production wells that produce oil also have a "pump jack" (typical equipment seen at an oil well, big counterweighted shaft going around maybe 4 RPM, pulling a rod going down the well bore. It's a piston pump pulling the oil up in many stages.) Usually there is an electric motor maybe 5 or 10 HP. As for the electric near the natural gas, that's not an issue, unless there is a defect in the well casing or piping, which is not wanted to loose the gas there is no hazard. State regulations require 200' to a building, but once the well is in, maybe you could build much closer. In cities we see once in a while a well being plugged in city neighborhoods with small lots(maybe 50' x 140') . In some instances the conduit might want to be explosion proof, but I'm not sure that is required in this case. Electrical inspection in our area is lax to non-existant. With the blind flange off the top of the well, if ignited, the flame would be a modest maybe 4' high, and a nice hand warmer for the well driller. The driller used a cable tool rig to drill the well, and when the bit was going up and down in the well, the driller would light the gas, and keep his hands warm. :) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist