Olin Lathrop wrote:
> David VanHorn wrote:
>   
>> I think you would have been fine without the "dirtbag".
>>     
>
> But also fine with it according to the rules.  It was just a mildly humerous
> way to emphasize the point.  I wasn't saying the OP was a dirtbag, only that
> the information he'd given suggested it as a possibility that others would
> have to consider before granting his request.
>   
It didn't sound in any way humorous to me. It sounded like a pretty 
personal attack. Which may well have been justified, and worded 
differently could have been harsher in terms of effect without causing a 
problem.
> However all this is aside from the main point, which is that the rules are
> being applied selectively.  I'm quite sure that if anyone else had posted
> that reply nothing would have come of it.
>   
Because they don't have a history of pissing people off for their 
personal enjoyment. (that's how it looks to me anyway)
> Selectively applying the rules is particularly wrong when James himself
> doesn't adhere to them.  I'm still waiting for James to tell us whether his
> last outburst indicated a relaxing of the rules or whether he will now put
> himself on moderation.  I doubt anyone here would disagree that if I had
> said about anyone what he said about me, that would trigger moderation or
> booting me off the list completely.
>   
James is king, its his list, deal with it or leave.
It is the ultimate application of anarchy, he has the power.

With regards you getting moderated etc, I have in the past sworn 
(dropped the F-Bomb) on the list and just received a (very stern and 
final) warning for it. I like to think its because I am generally a nice 
guy and James is a forgiving person.
You can't expect to be trusted totally when you have broken that trust 
every time it has been offered in the past.

If you wanted to be taken off moderation, rather than using force and 
being confrontational. You probably could have gotten what you wanted by 
writing an open letter to the list (or even just James), apologise for 
saying things in the past that have upset people, that you have learnt 
from this and would like to try the list again with the training wheels off.
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