I have only been lightly reading this thread, please excuse me if I'm repeating a previous idea. Don't most cars use CAN bus? Could you connect in read only mode and monitor events? It may not be "universal", but when it works, you'd get a great deal of data from all over the car. I am sure there are others here with more info on this than I have. It it feasible? Lyle -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist