Olin Wrote: > You misunderstand what I meant by "problem". I'm not talking about > whatever the OP asked about, but the problem of people coming here > asking stupid questions that are directly and clearly answered in the > manual, using annoying email formatting, wah-wah Who exactly do you think you are? Who are you to decide what is stupid and what is not? It is very easy to miss a small but crucial detail in a manual; even more so if - as a newbie - a person doesn't necessarily know what they're looking for....Your failure to understand this is more a reflection on you than it is on them and I say this safe in the knowledge that I spend a great deal of time scanning through product manuals and datasheets. As a long time list-lurker and only occasional poster, I have to say that - having observed your behaviour - I find your attitude to be unprofessional. Your lack of good manners and understanding of human nature no doubt _causes_ more problems than you alledge it "solves". Furthermore, you appear to have delusions of grandeur and your behaviour can only be described as "childish" - pure and simple. Talent (real or perceived) is not a free license to obnoxious behaviour. This is a community, designed to share information and members with knowledge above and beyond that of "newbies" elect to share their experiences as and when they can. In almost _all_ cases (but yours), they do so with a modicum of dignity, respect and friendliness. As another - more senior - poster put it "these are the things that most of us learn in kindergarten". Grow up. For your own sake if no one elses. And if you can't or wont grow up then shut up. EK -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist