Apptech wrote: > No. The rules which we have all agreed to live under say > that we are not ALLOWED to bawl people out, let alone in an > A&R manner. You keep saying that we have all agreed to some rules, but there is obviously much difference in people's interpretation, so it's impossible for all to agree to exactly the same set of rules. This is especially so since the rules have changed a lot since I've been on the PIClist, and I don't remember any official copy of them being changed along with the enforcement threshold. The first few years I was on the list, there was relatively little interference from James. Every once in a while he might grumble about something I said, but that's all, so it was of little consequence. Eventually he got all bothered for some reason and started deleting people for things that would have yielded a grumble at best only a year earlier. Now I'm not even sure how he would react to a well deserved "RTFM", although I would continue to say that in the relatively rare cases I felt it was appropriate. This list has become waaaaaay to PC, to the point of cutting into useful content. > Point understood BUT being trashed by someone in public can > be amongst the most unpleasant mental experiences going. > People have killed for less. That this may not be rational > or how we'd hope they'd behave is not the point. It is exactly the point. If they behave irrationally the blame and burden should be on them, not the person delivering the message that they didn't like. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist