> Or the way one of my mentors put it years ago, Piss Poor Planning > Equals Piss Poor Performance... just like Electronics and Software > Engineering It so is. One of the frustrations of the job is convincing clients that even though the circuit board looks just the same as it did last week, the s/w is very much tougher (idiot-proofing, what ifs etc). Often the core s/w, the bit that actually does something, might be 1/4 the total. The rest is to stop it all going wrong. A little thought goes a long way -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist