Is this the reverse biased method: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5955793.html If so, need a bit longer for this patent to run out (unless you want to invalidate it, which takes time and money). It's hard to beat a cheap thermistor for cost, though. Even Digikey has $0.57 leaded thermistors in quantities of one, and when you get down to surface mount you easily halve that cost - in volume they are very cheap. Can you give more implementation details on the below method, if it's not the patented one above? -Adam On 5/20/08, Apptech wrote: > >I need a low cost (in qty) way to sense room temperature. > > Better with EE tag. > > Consulting fee applies when you use the following brilliant > solution. Pay it to James for PICList support. Lowest cost > and about highest accuracy is a (silicon) diode with delta > voltage measurement for delta current step (or vice versa). > This gives you uncalibrated sensing to well under 1 degree C > accuracy. Nothing else comes close in effectiveness per $. > (ducks). Almost nobody seems to use this low cost high > accuracy calibration free method. In use in some CPU die > temp sensors. More on this if needed / interested. Note that > this is NOT the normal "diode as temperature sensor" system > which is less accurate and requires calibration. > > Other: > > Thermistor is good. Accuracy varies with $. Calibration > helps. > > Platinum RTD is good but costs more. > > Electronic modular solutions. > > Thermocouple not really appropriate here. > > > Russell McMahon > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Forrest W Christian" > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." > > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:35 PM > Subject: [PIC] Low cost temperature sensing > > > >I need a low cost (in qty) way to sense room temperature. > >I tagged this > > as [PIC] as I'm looking for a solution which is low-cost > > when > > considering interfacing to the PIC processor. > > > > Right now I'm bit banging a DS18S20 (had a library) on a > > PIC18F part for > > development purposes, but this is a bit pricey and > > sometimes hard to find. > > > > My goals are as follows: > > > > 1) 3.3V (this is a biggy-it seems some of the more popular > > sensors need 5V+) > > > > 2) Cheap and easily obtainable. Mouser stocking it is a > > plus. > > > > 3) No calibration required to obtain accuracy within a few > > degrees > > (solder and be done). > > > > 4) Ok to use about any resource on the PIC. I have ADC > > ins and spare > > I/O pins available. The SPI interface is somewhat tied up > > with a couple > > of other devices which are fairly high-bandwidth, but I > > could do a SPI > > sensor if need be. I2C not so much, although I guess I > > could bit-bang > > i2c as well. > > > > 5) Through hole packaging. No SMD-only parts. > > > > 6) -40*F to well over 120*F. The idea is to monitor > > likely temperature > > ranges for outdoor enclosures. > > > > Ideas? > > > > -forrest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- EARTH DAY 2008 Tuesday April 22 Save Money * Save Oil * Save Lives * Save the Planet http://www.driveslowly.org -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist