Luis posted: What do the fundamental limits of physics say about sustainable energy? The British Isles, we often hear, have 'huge' renewable resources - but we need to know how this 'huge' source compares with another 'huge': our huge power consumption. The public discussion of energy policy needs numbers, not adjectives. Assuming no economic constraints, assuming we cover the country with windmills and the coast with wave-machines, every roof with solar panels and every field with energy crops, could Britain get enough power from renewables to continue with our current consumption? " _________________ The 4 page executive summary is well worth reading by anyone with any interest at all in energy futures. While it is UK biased the conclusions translate easily enough to other countries. http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/sustainable/book/tex/synopsis.pdf 13 MB PDF :-) http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/sustainable/book/tex/cft.pdf Of interest may be the 362 web links from the book here http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/sustainable/book/tex/cft.url.html Worth noting is: David MacKay is Professor of Natural Philosophy in the Department of Physics at the University of Cambridge. R -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist