>> Is there a standard for naming ? No. Various manufacturers MAY have a semi standard in their own data sheets but even these vary with time or within the organisation. Shown from top or bottom. 123 or 321 left to right. or CBE marked as appropriate. Long ago SOME had CBE moulded into case but not the norm. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist