> Err... on a TO-92 case, the base is the middle one, right? > How do you know > which is the emitter and which is the collector? >> BTW, you have got the transistor wired up right ? Varies with type. All are variants of bce and ebc plus reversals. Look in datasheet for the type you are using. Digikey are a quick way to access data sheets for many parts. There are complexities but few matter here. Brief: Transistor supported collector current is base current x current gain. Current gain is call Beta. Base current ~~= (Vdrive-0.6)/Rbase or Rbase <= (Vdrive-0.6)/ base current ~~= (Vdrive-0.6)/ (relay_current/Beta) For say 100 mA relay current and conservative Beta = 50 or more (OK for many small transistors) Rbase <=~~~ (5-0.6)/(100mA/50) = 2200R So use a 1K base drive AND connect the transistor correctly and it should work. Many/most multimeters have a beta tester included. Socket labelled cbec or whatever. - Establish probable connection pattern. - Test with meter beta tester. Beta should be say > 100 and ideally 200+ at current used by meter Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist