>> Some a*hole can't just invent copyleft and expect it to have the same >> legal weight as copyright. A lot of the license agreements and similar that people "agree" to every day are not actually legal, and yet still carry weight in that they carefully spell out how they want the various parties to behave. The primary purpose of a legal agreement is to get understanding and AGREEMENT between the parties involved, not to make sure you can collect damages and similar if someone breaks the agreement. I think GPL and similar are reaching a point where they do this pretty well. I think a lot of people just jumped on the wagon without paying much attention, and I'm not terribly happy about the period during which the meaning of GPL was more obscured, but that's coming to an end. Of course, it's still a real pain to apply to the embedded space, but that's a separate issue... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist