Nichicon "supercaps" ________________ UM series leaded . "High voltage" (2.7V compared to older 2.5V UC series 0.47 to 47 Farad http://www.nichicon.co.jp/english/products/pdf/e-um.pdf Note leakage of 0.5C mA - ie 23.5 mA for 47 Farad cap. A 47 F cap at full charge stores about 150 W.s of energy so at 23.5 mA, 2.5V it loses 2.3%+ of its energy per minute. At constant rate ("which you have not got"*) it would self discharge in under an hour !!! You need 50+ of these to equal the energy stored in a 2000 mAh NimH AA cell. You need 150+ of these to equal the energy stored in a 2000 mAh 18650 LiIon cell. UC series 2.5V http://products.nichicon.co.jp/en/product_detail.cfm UC selector guide http://products.nichicon.co.jp/en/part_search/part_list.cfm ________________ The big boys. JL series 400F to 2600F Screw terminal. "Suitable for regeneration and UPS applications" STILL 0.5C mA leakage - SO 2600F cap has 1.3A leakage !!! :-). http://www.nichicon.co.jp/english/products/pdf/e-jl.pdf 2 milliohm DC resistance for the 2600F. 7 milliohm for the 400F. Hmmm. 2.5/0.002 = 1250A :-) 2.5V x 1250A = 3 kW+ "Not for long" [tm] though. 'May have problems' with contact & lead resistance. Clearly though, shorting these would be a 'bad idea'. A 2600F 2.5V cap has about the same energy storage capacity as a single NimH 2000 mAh AA cell. \ http://www.nichicon.co.jp/english/products/pdf/e-jl.pdf ________________ Application guidelines for Nichicon "EVerCAP" Supercaps http://products.nichicon.co.jp/en/pdf/e-ev_gui.pdf Russell * non sequitir, gargoyle knows: "which you have not got" "naming of parts" -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist