I'm going to be starting to use some of the small 8 pin Serial SPI EEPROM memories and would like to come up with a production-quality programmer for them. On the PIC side, I'm using Olin's ProProg and it's working out well, and we like the way it works... Insert chip, hit button, wait until LED comes back on steady, remove chip and repeat. No need to have the computer on the same desk as the programmer (we have a table which parallels the desk with the computer on which we use for things which need the computer in a support role such as the ProProg). We just start the software and then it's just us, the chips, and the programmer. So far, I haven't found anything both reasonably priced and seemingly production capable. I'm about ready to build my own (after all it is only SPI flash), but would prefer to do something a little less drastic. So before I did I figured I'd ask on-list. Ideas? -forrest -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist