Byron Jeff wrote: > It's the none at all that's the real problem. Without a license, no > one has any right to do anything with the source for your software. Are you really sure? I am not a lawyer, but if there are no restrictions listed then it seems to me there are no restrictions. Many things on the internet have no explicit copyright and are routinely copied. I don't remember anyone claiming that something without a explicit copyright was illegally copied. In fact I remember a case around 1984 when I was at Raster Technologies. We made display controllers. At the time these were 20K$ rack mounted boxes that recieved commands over RS-232 or DR-11W and produced RGB video. We had a quick reference card that briefly listed all the commands. A competitor, Vermont Microsystems Inc, made a stripped down display controller and decided to use our command set to claim "Raster compatible". They even produced a quick reference card that was clearly a copy of our card. Then someone looked at our card carefully and realized we had forgotten to put a copyright notice on it anywhere. VMI hadn't broken any laws. All subsequent cards we produced had a copyright notice on them though. > The only point is that because your license above specifically limits > redistribution both in number of copies and the devices the code can > be > used on, that it isn't open source by any common definition that the > open source community in general uses. Apparently there is wide variation on what people consider "open source". Perhaps FSF is trying to push it in a restrictive (and self-serving) direction, but that doesn't make it so. These are two ordinary english words they don't get to redefine. To me, "open" means it is for all to see, as in "open book". If they want a label that means you can not only see the code but can also do what you want with it (except for their own favorite set of restrictions, of course) then they need to create a trademark or something. Note that they tried and failed to trademark "open source", so apparently the government agrees they don't get to define what that means. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist