On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 20:06 +0800, Xiaofan Chen wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Alan B. Pearce wrote: > > >Is there another open source programmer around? or better one with USB > > >support? > > > > Well Olin recently made his USB programmer source open for download, so if > > there is a specific requirement you have, then that would be eminently > > hackable. > > > > Olin's programmer does not really belong to open source because of the > license limit. Umm, sorry Xiaofan, but I think you are confusing terms. AFAIK, Olin has released the source (which is ALWAYS appreciated in my world), and allowed people to "play" with it for their own uses. By pretty much ANY definition I can think of this is "open source". Open source doesn't mean "free". Have a read of the GPL license (which much of what is open source uses), it's pretty restrictive in certain ways, not much less so then what Olin has stipulated. > It is also not easy to hack as well. That of course is your opinion. That said, have you ever actually looked at some "open source" code out there? It's often VERY confusing to decipher, made more so by the fact that it's rarely commented. I haven't looked at Olin's code, but I would bet at least a donut that it is VERY well documented. That alone makes it miles better then much of what's open source. As for program structure, I'm sure some of the "not niceness" is due way more to the insanity that is the MChip programming specs then it is Olin's coding style. On this topic I will say: way to go Olin. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist