SM Ling wrote: > Is there another open source programmer around? or better one with > USB support? http://www.embedinc.com/products/usbprog. This is a native USB programmer carefully designed for robustness and works over the full range of compliant USB voltages. The optional development software download includes the PIC firmware and host software source. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist