> > EA > I don't agree with "good riddance" We'll have to agree to disagree. My experiences (note the plural) with EA led to a dramatic loss of trust. ETI was a much superior magazine IMVHO. Whether or not ETI staff were more competent or inventive is debatable but I just personally preferred ETI's finesse Recently the editor of Silicon Chip asked readers whether the magazine was publishing too many microcontroller- based projects. My response to him was that the magazine is OK as it is, with the possible exception of needing some basic refreshers from time to time I think micros have helped magazines stay afloat, opening up a whole new genre of projects. It would be foolish for both readers and publisher not to move forward with the times. Programming is a fairly inexpensive hobby and good value for money time-wise -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist