Wouter van Ooijen wrote: > Same problem remains: Your the system works the wrong way. In my country > (and AFAIK all of continental Europe) cheques are a thing of the past > (and were not very popular anyway). A transaction is initiated by me > ordering my bank to transfer money to account 1234567 of mr A. BCDE. If > this is within my own country I don't even have to know which bank holds > that account, if it is within the EC euro zone I have to add some > details (account IBAN and BIC codes). Cost is almost zero (think 0.05). > At the moment I order the transaction I can check if I have enough > credit, or maybe I must simultaneously transfer from my savings account > to my main account. That gets done only the next day, but I can schedule > the other transaction after that if I want to. No way I will be > surprised by an overdraw. (OK, I can be a bit surprised if I forgot how > much I ordered by Credit Card, or from companies that are allowed (by > me) to withdraw from my account, but in those cases I could have > remembered). Wouter, you're a hypocrite. When I made a negative comment about the way the European economy is being managed, you threw a hissy fit and called me a troll. And here you are, dissing the US banking system. :-) However, I agree that the US banking system sucks compared to what you guys have on the other side of the pond (based on what you and other Europeans I know have said). Making an international wire transfer is a ridiculously time-consuming, expensive, and unreliable process. Sadly, it may take another 9/11 for the banks to finally convert from the antiquated paper-based systems. Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist