I have only fired guns on two occasions in my life. The second time, I
got to use a Bushmaster AR-15 (or M-16) clone. Because of being a rank
beginner, I kept the target fairly close. I was stunned that several
times I could not find a new hole after taking a shot. The target was
close enough (probably 10 yards away) that I think it is unlikely that
I missed it entirely. Instead, I think that the AR-15 was _so_ precise
that it was actually easy to put several rounds through the same hole
at such a short distance (especially since the AR-15 is semi-automatic
and I could fire several times without moving the rifle). Now, getting
that hole to be in the desired location was harder :) Alas the
weapon's precision could not make up for the shooter's inaccuracy.

I think the AR-15 rounds were something like USD$0.50 per cartrige so
perhaps they are very well made! (I hope!)

Sean


On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:42 AM, John Gardner <goflo3@gmail.com> wrote:
> A good match rifle, with match-grade loads (a non-trivial exercise itself),
> can shoot to the same point with 1/2 minute-of-arc accuracy, so putting
> shots through the same hole, or nearly so, is not improbable at close
> range.
>
> Depends on what you're trying to do, I guess. Interesting problem.
>
> regards, Jack
>
>
> On 4/15/08, David VanHorn <microbrix@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Forums <forum@inzon.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > David VanHorn wrote:
> > >
> > >  >It would be nice to have something that can solve the problem when
> > >  >bullet B goes through bullet A's hole.
> > >  >(has happened to me, when it mattered)
> > >
> > >  I can see how irritating that could be, but if the sport is to imitate
> > life,
> > >  when is it useful to shoot something twice in exactly the same place?...
> > in
> > >  that respect, it's fair that the second shot doesn't count. I guess this
> > is
> > >  one skill most of us need not bother with: if you have the capability of
> > >  hitting a bullet hole sized target from a distance then you should place
> > >  them next to each other rather than on top.
> >
> > Sorry, you don't get THAT much control. This was simply shooting for
> > score.  Several rounds very close to each other will also open up a
> > larger hole than all three of them individually.  The question being
> > asked by the scoring is "how close to center did you hit", and when a
> > round goes through a hole and fails to create a new one or significant
> > damage, then you can't be sure that it didn't miss the target
> > completely.
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