I tend to agree....some things just beg to be done at a HLL. Graphical displays and higher level communcation protocols are two that come to mind. I can't see doing large bit mapped using ASM....or.....are there some doing that now? PAUL James wrote: Bob, This probably isn't what you want to hear, but I still contend that HLL's for PIC's aren't the great thing they're cracked up to be. I use Assembly most of the time. However, once in a while, I get a contract that requires an HLL such as C or BASIC. I can, and do, use these two languages occasionally, but I don't use them if I don't have to. And even when I do use them, I don't much like it. However, that's just me. I have nothing against anyone who wants to use an HLL once in a while, or even all the time for that matter. With all of that said, I have tried several C's and BASIC's over the years (about 17 years or so with PIC's), And I tend to like the Mikroelektronika C and BASIC. They support virtually every function that the others Do, plus you can use libraries written in the other languages published by them in your projects. I haven't purchased one of them yet because the demo has been all I need so far. But if I buy another HLL for the PIC's, it will be this company's products. They have a good price, good support, and frequent updates. All in all, a good value for the money from where I stand. As an aside, I can't figure out how you can buy one compiler for $800.00+ dollars and another for less than $200.00, And they both work equally well, or the lower cost one is better in some respects. I don't worry too much about this though since I don't really use HLL's anyway. It was just a thought I had While compiling this response. Have fun deciding which compiler to go with. There are so many now that it boggles the mind. Regards, Jim -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Axtell Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:37 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [Ad] - WIZ C PIC Compiler Professional, free and full versionsupgraded to version 15 Robin, I am looking for C compilers. How do others on the Piclist feel about it? --Bob Axtell Robin Abbott wrote: > WIZ-C Professional version 15 is now available in both free and full > capability versions. > > WIZ-C professional is a PIC ANSI C compiler with RAD front end and is > available free of charge for programs up to 2K words in size. The > price of the full version was been reduced to 50 UK pounds - $100.00 > last November and the upgrade price for previous customers is $30.00. > Full details from here : > > http://www.fored.co.uk/html/wiz_c_-__pic_c_compiler.HTM > > For any queries please contact us at : > > info@fored.co.uk > > > Amongst other improvements are : > > New processors added across the range Usability enhancements to > Application Wizard New project wizard New elements Handles new 18F > series fuse model Various Bug fixes > > > > Robin Abbott > > > Forest Electronics - The home of the WIZ-C PIC C compiler > > www.fored.co.uk > > 07801 718136 (+44 7801 718136) > > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist